Seret

[kaelisebonrai]

Hi all,

I've been trying to hunt down some info on Seret, for some research I've been doing...

Just what do we know about Seret?

Yes, I do mean the lost neighbourhood Seret, one of the ones the early Authorised Explorers visited, long ago.

I'm thinking about going looking for it, as the early history of the restoration/explorer era really interests me.

Also:

Any members of the DRC know how we might be able to regain access to the fabled lost 'hood? I guess they might not check these forums, much, anymore.. But I'd personally be up to offering help and resources to help give us access to the old place, again.

[Horatio252]

I know that the Guild of Archivists are inactive right now, but the Archive itself can be a useful source of knowledge. The entry on Seret is here.

Also, you might try searching this forum (the DRC forums) for "seret". The early part of this thread is the most useful.

I am of the opinion that what most explorers consider variations on the Bevin hood are in fact unique 'hoods. Seret is the first "variation" ever experienced and was thus named, but every variation should have it's own name. For example, if you are in a hood with a clock and I am in a hood without one then we are in different hoods which should have different names, not simply two different variations of Bevin.
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[kaelisebonrai]

EDIT: Note: this information is hilariously out of date. /EDIT


The entry on seret is... minimal, and does not cover all of the known information.

For instance: We know that Seret did not have a telescope.

We know, as noted in the archive, that Seret has Bee/Moth lamps.

We also know, it did have a clock.

We know it did not have the paper lanterns.

We know it did not have a beachball, as well.

All of these things are "notable features".

Bevin, Seret, and Kirel are the only named hoods, not merely variations, they are specific places, neighbourhoods, on the Cavern wall.

There is a single, solitary "Bevin", the rest are (unnamed) neighbourhoods, as the thread you linked to points out.

There is also a single Seret, and a single Kirel. =)

EDIT: corrected the entry on the clock, i can now confirm it /did/ have a clock. the pictures I have are dark, and hard to see details. But, it is definitely there.

[Horatio252]

You know more about Seret than I do. The things that "we know" I have never found recorded until you wrote them down just now (aside from the moth lamps). Your search for knowledge is off to a better start than mine ever was. Good luck in finding more information.

I agree there is one Seret, one Bevin, one Kirel, one neighborhood that looks like Seret with a clock, one neighborhood that looks like Bevin without a telescope, etc. All I am saying is we know the name of the first hood, Bevin. We know the name of the generally similar looking second hood, Seret, but once we got to the third and fourth and beyond we never learned their names. I contend they are not Bevin "instances" and Seret "instances" but rather each is a unique hood which we can only label "Bevin-style" and "Seret-style" because we have no other terminology. If we had never learned the name of Seret we might have call it a "Bevin-style" hood.
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[kaelisebonrai]

Oh, indeed, I happened across some pictures, and heard from people who got their info from the people who were there. =P

I'm hoping this thread can serve as a reference for explorers looking for Seret, or wanting to know about it. Perhaps, one day, you and I can visit Seret, and the real Bevin. =)

Also, I agree, there are many other layouts/variants.. and I also agree that they are not instances, at all. =) and there are, perhaps, layouts and variants we're yet to see, too!

[Simone]

A KI snapshot of Watson in Seret from the old DRC (circa 2003) site can be found here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041213065242/www.drcsite.org/sightsSounds.shtml

It can clearly be seen that a telescope was not installed on the balcony at the time.
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[Tweek]

In case that doesn't work I have it archived here:

http://dniexplorer.com/archive/drc-sights-sounds
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[Zardoz]

We know that Seret was put on a fast track for DRC approval:

[kaelisebonrai]

Hokay.. I guess now the question is:

Was a telescope installed before.. Seret was "lost"?

Also, were paper lanterns installed before we lost access?

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More questions:

The fungi on the light garden, were they present, in Seret?

Were the waterfall "torches" present in Seret? (I've seen hoods without them, and it appears to be mostly a permanent feature, as there appears to be no trace of the light source, when they aren't there.

The round, flat Imager, (non-functioning) (near the fountain), was this present, as well?

I'd suspect that if the fountain was still functioning before we lost access, it probably wouldn't be functioning now, after all this time. =) (I seem to remember between the two Restorations, the fountains were disabled(?))

I'm hoping to see if we can regain access to Seret, and Bevin itself, if possible. Not sure how I'll do it, but, I want to be sure what I find is actually Seret.

[Prof H]

Hmm I wonder if the KI coordinates for Seret were ever recorded... That might be a useful clue as to tell whether it is Seret or not. I would love to see Bevin and Seret made into Public Hoods like Kirel. Perhaps after they were rediscovered one of them could be turned into a museum recording the Exploration.
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[Prof H]

Oh and on a side note I've done some calculations along with some others, and the approximate number of Hoods we came up with was 1,214 (although I'm not sure B'ni took into account the large City structure in the NW corner of the Cavern) but 1,214 Hoods to Search through shouldn't be that bad... Oh that reminds me I need to talk with the DRC about the Calculations.

( the info is located here for those interested: http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21097&start=15 )
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[Simone]

I'd also be curious to know if the 'DRC Bevin' in the Nexus (the one with no numbers) is "the real Bevin"...
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[kaelisebonrai]

Simone: I doubt it, its just another random DRC Neighborhood, the only way it is likely to be the real deal, is if it was called "Bevin" and pretty much nothing else. =P

EDIT: And even then, I'm not sure if i'd believe it. =)

[Simone]

Yes, I guess you're right!
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[kaelisebonrai]

Great Scot!

I was wrong.

Seret /did/ have a Clock.

I went over a few pictures I had, and its there... barely visible, but.. there.

I can confirm, as well, that there were Waterfall torches, and that at least /one/ of the "Old Imagers" as seen in the Eder Tomahntee, is also there.